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If you’ve ever found yourself faffing about on Canva, “researching” on social media, or pouring hours into busywork that doesn’t actually move the needle — this one’s for you.
I’m joined by the brilliant Anna Green, founder of Direct Selling Success and host of the Direct Selling Success Podcast. Anna helps business owners (especially network marketers) ditch the hustle, set boundaries, and build businesses that actually fit into real life — without burning out in the process.
Inside this episode:
🍋 The four simple things that really matter in business (and why everything else is just noise)
🍋 How to spot productivity traps like scroll holes and “panic posting” before they derail your day
🍋 Why boundaries are your best defence against burnout (and how to stick to them without guilt)
🍋 Anna’s brilliant pocket-of-time strategy for getting results in just 10 minutes
🍋 What to do when you’ve got a team… but they’re draining your energy instead of driving results
This conversation is packed with honesty, practical tips, and the reminder we all need: productivity isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing what matters most — and giving yourself permission to drop the rest.
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Let’s be honest — how many times have you told yourself you’re “working on your business” when really you’ve just fallen down a scroll hole, tinkered in Canva for hours, or faffed around with busywork that doesn’t actually move you forward? 🙋♀️
If that sounds familiar, you’re not alone. And you’re definitely going to love this conversation with Anna Green.
Anna is the founder of Direct Selling Success and host of the Direct Selling Success Podcast. She’s on a mission to help business owners — especially network marketers — build businesses that are sustainable, profitable and fun… without burning out in the process. What I adore about Anna is that she’s not about the hustle, the grind or the gimmicks. She’s about boundaries, balance, and doing business in a way that actually works for you.
Anna shared something I think every business owner needs to hear: business is actually simple. There are just four things that matter:
Meet people.
Build genuine connections.
Offer something amazing that helps them.
Teach others to do the same.
That’s it. No 47-step formulas. No endless to-do lists. If you focus on those four, you’re moving your business forward. Everything else? Probably faff.
We talked about some of the biggest traps business owners fall into — and social media topped the list. How often do you log in to “post something” and find yourself an hour later still scrolling? (Yep, guilty.)
Anna’s advice: if you’re not working on social media, get it out of sight. No pings, no notifications, no temptation. When you are using it for your business, go directly to the task — the group you need to post in, the person you need to follow up with, the content you’ve scheduled — and don’t get lost in the feed.
I added one of my own favourite tips: if you really struggle, put your phone in another room. Even just having it nearby can suck away your focus. There’s science behind that — studies show your brain is distracted just by the presence of your phone, even when it’s switched off.
One of the most powerful parts of our chat was around boundaries. Anna explained that so many business owners — especially those with teams — waste time on people who say they want it, but never follow through. The truth? If someone isn’t taking action, your energy is wasted on them.
Set boundaries. Define them. And defend them. Because every “yes” you give to someone else is a “no” to your own priorities.
Anna also shared her brilliant “pocket of time” approach. Most business owners don’t have endless hours to pour into their business — they’re juggling jobs, kids, life. So instead of waiting for a perfect five-hour window, work with the time you do have.
Her tip? Create a list of 10-minute tasks that tie back to those four business essentials. That way, when you grab a spare moment, you know exactly what to do — no faffing, no decision fatigue, just action.
What I loved about this conversation is how simple Anna makes it. Productivity isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing what matters most. It’s about protecting your energy, building systems that work for you, and giving yourself permission to rest without guilt.
Because at the end of the day, what’s the point in building a business if it burns you out?
If you want more from Anna, check out Direct Selling Success, her brilliant podcast, and her free Facebook community — it’s packed with resources and support for business owners who want to do this the right way.
And if you’re curious about what’s secretly holding you back from being as productive as you could be, take my free quiz here: www.zestproductivity.com/quiz. It’ll give you instant, tailored tips to help you move forward.
Here’s to ditching the faff, setting boundaries, and building businesses that give us the freedom we’re really here for. 🍋
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Hello, lovely listeners. Today I am joined by someone who is on a mission to help network marketers build businesses that are both successful and sustainable, but without burnout. Anna Green is the founder of Direct Selling Success and the host of the Direct Selling Success podcast. She’s a mentor who helps women ditch the hustle culture and grow a thriving network marketing business in a way that fits their life.
What I love about Anna is that she’s all about doing this without gimmicks, without grind, without sacrificing your sanity. She’s passionate about helping women unlock their confidence and simplify strategies, find systems that work for them. I had the privilege of being on Anna’s podcast about six months ago, and I’m so excited to now welcome her here to Productivity with Zest to dive into all things productivity for network marketers.
Welcome Anna. Hello. Nice to be here. Looking forward to this. Great. So for those that dunno you yet, can you share a bit of your story, how you came to focus on helping women in network marketing succeed without the hustle? Well, my journey in direct sales network marketing began in 2005. I was home alone with two kids thinking, what on earth am I doing with my life?
I’d lost my identity. I was known as Laura’s mom. I had no career. I was following a military husband around the country, and I ended up at one of these. Party plan parties, you know, like the old Tupperware, Virgin V, that sort of thing. And just saw the lady who was doing the party thinking, do you know what?
I want her life. I want to be able to go and have fun and earn money and get these amazing incentive trips that she’s going on. So I bought a kit. I bought a kit and I started going out and doing the home parties for the people who were in my local area. Built my confidence, built an income, built my life back, became successful in my own right, and people knew me for being me again, which for me was phenomenal.
I built a massively successful business and throughout. The last couple of years of me doing it, people were starting to ask me, how have you done this? How have you built this to the top? How have you got so far? And I was training them in all different companies, and it was somebody I’d met through networking, connecting with people that said to me, actually, you should be doing this for a living.
You should be helping more people. It’s, it was like a calling as such, and I thought, do you know what? Am I brave enough to do that? Yeah, let’s just do it. Let’s just jump straight in. And I set up direct selling success in 2019, about eight months before COVID started and never looked back. I’ve built it to become my full-time income, with, different companies that I work with, different consultants and network marketers that I work with to help them because I know the difference it made to me, and I know that there is some.
Teaching in the industry. I mean, you know, everybody has come across somebody who has dropped into their inbox unannounced, being rude and pushy and salesy at them. And I just know there’s a better way of doing it. And I know so many people struggle when they’re taught that way, or they’re taught away that they just can’t do for whatever reason, and to be able to give them that support for.
A small amount of money, or even for free with my podcast and free Facebook group and things like that. It just, for me, it’s making an impact. It’s making an impact on people of all stages, of network marketing, making an impact on the industry, and I absolutely love it. I, I wouldn’t do anything else now, I don’t think.
I love that I first came across Anna ’cause I was in a direct sales company. I had a business, a beautiful business with Temple Spa that I did for many, many years. And I still have a tour dipped in that lovely industry. I grew a team and had an absolute blast. Went on some amazing holidays and I came across Anna because people in my world were recommending her to me to get inside her Facebook group.
And it was really funny that then I found out she literally lived. 15 minutes away down the road pretty much. And we’ve since met in person, which was wonderful after lots of online interactions. She really is an amazing person, really helping in an industry, which can be a lot about the hustle and a lot about the it.
And in terms of productivity, it can mean different things to different people. But Anna, what do you think true productivity means to you in the context of network marketing, direct sales? Network marketing, most people do it on top of something else. So it’s very much a side hustle industry. It doesn’t have to be, but the majority of people start off that way.
So I started off trying to fit this around a husband shift or him being away for four months, detachments. I fit it around, a lifestyle where I didn’t have family support. For me, I had to fit what I was doing in the time that I had. To make it as productive as I possibly could do. For a lot of other people, they’re doing it on top of a full-time job or another business and, and again, it’s prioritizing that time and thinking, well, I wanna make this work.
I’ve got this dream for this. Side hustle that I’ve got. I hate that phrase because it just makes you think of pushing and, and desperation and the rest of it. But you know, that’s, that’s the word. And I really do think that if, if you can get really productive with the time that you’ve got and, and use it wisely.
You can do anything in small pockets of time. You can fit this around, you know, a 48 hour week or only working weekends or fitting it around kids’ school runs, or play groups or, you know, taking your kids’ places. And the clever you can get with it, the more you can do with it. I remember when I started, my little girl was one when I started with Temple Spa and then I.
Then I had my son a few years later, and it was when I was on maternity leave that I focused a little bit more effort into my business and grew a team and started actually earning a bit of money, and I was really pleased I did because I went back to work after maternity leave and got made redundant about four or five months after I went back, my side income, my business I was building then became the thing that I fell back on, and that’s when I jumped two feet into the industry and building my business. That was back in 2018 and I had a wonderful time building it. But you’re right, you can fit this.
As long as you do the important things in the pockets of time you have, and not with all the stuff that makes you seem busy, but it’s not actually productive. And when you are the people you are working with, Anna, who are juggling their business around everything, jobs, kids life, what are some of the biggest productivity traps that you see people falling into?
Oh, well, the majority of people. In network marketing nowadays run their business on social media. And the biggest thing I see is I haven’t got time to do this, haven’t got time to do that, but the majority of the time they’re just scrolling. They’ve fallen down that scroll hole and they just, the thing that they went on to Facebook to do, either connect with somebody or put a post out there, or engage with people, follow up, whatever it might have been.
The majority of that time is just staring at the screen and moving the screen up and staring at cat pictures or where they wanna go on holiday,
and they’re creating pretty pictures on Canva or, they’re so tired from being at work all day that. Business goes out the window and they sit binge watch Netflix. It’s, it is discipline. It’s real discipline and creating a habit of, right, this is what I want, this is how I’m gonna get it, what is gonna move my business forward?
What is gonna make me the income? What is gonna get me in front of the new people? Social media is a real blessing for. The industry a hundred percent. But like you said, a massive distraction. And what is, your biggest advice for using it productively rather than letting it eat up all your time?
If you’re not working on social media, turn it off or have it out of reach. I would not have your notifications pinging left, right, and center for the platforms while you are trying to focus on something else the platforms are designed to be addictive.
You’ve got to remove that temptation to keep clicking on, oh, who said this ping who said this? What’s going on now? And then when you do pick up the device to actually do something on that platform that is supposed to be productive. Don’t go straight onto that feed, go somewhere else. Go onto the group that you want to be posting on, or the platform where you can put the posts up and schedule them so that you’re not actually on that addictive feed or looking at your notifications.
Set yourself timers. When I first started trying to train my brain not to look at the feed all the time, I set myself 15 minute timers. So that if I did happen to get distracted, I could bring myself back with the alarm going off. To refocus me. But it is, it’s so difficult because they’re, designed to keep you hooked.
Another really good thing to do is to, if you are working, put your phone in another room. If you don’t need to use the phone, put it away from you in a draw somewhere else on airplane mode. Just, remove it from that area where you’re actually supposed to be working?
Hmm, that’s a great tip. I read an amazing book about two years ago or 18 months ago called The Attention Fix by Dr. Anders Hansen. And in it, he talks a lot about what the apps are doing, that they’re selling our attention, that’s what they’re selling. And I made a bit of a decision that I don’t wanna be sold.
So I really limit my social media use. Don’t have the apps on my phone because I can do it on my computer. There was a study he mentioned where a group of students and they were all sitting in exam. Half of them had their phone in their pocket in the exam, and it was switched off, but in their pocket, half of them left the phone outside, and the half that had the phone in their pocket performed significantly worse.
On the exam. ’cause even the presence of these little rectangles distracts us and they’re designed to, they pay the most world class neuroscientists to figure out how to hold our attention just that little bit longer because that’s what they’re selling to the adverts, the advertisers. So yeah, that’s a great one out of the room on airplane mode because the presence of it is so distracting.
So if in network, if someone’s running a network marketing business and they’re like, right, I have these little pockets of time where I’m running it, and that’s my focus. I don’t have anymore. ’cause I’ve got playgroup, I’ve got picking up my kids from school, I’ve got my other job. All those things that fill up our time, they’ve got these little pockets of quality time.
How can network marketers identify the important things to do, the right things to do in that time and identify what truly matters in their business? So network marketing is a really simple industry. There’s four things to it. So you need to meet people, you need to build connection with those people.
You need to offer amazing opportunities to those people that are gonna help them or support them or give them what they want and what they need. And then you need to teach others to do the same. And that is the principle. As long as you are filling your time, or the majority of your time that you have to work on your business with those four things, you can’t go wrong because they’re the only four things that you need to think about to get you to the top, to make you the big books, to make you anything at all in that industry.
It’s, the basic principle of those four things. That means success. If you are filling your pockets of time with those things, not necessarily in equal measures, but a fair amount of each one, you’re gonna keep building and it’s like spinning plates. The moment you start teaching other people to do the same thing as you are doing, by building that team, you tend to slip with, meeting people and building your own sales and offering those opportunities yourself.
So it’s having that balance at the right times, looking at what’s needed when. What your big goal is, what your plan is, what you are aiming for, and fitting those things in. You’ve just simplified business for everybody there. That’s it. That is business. All business meet, find people. Find the right people.
Your target audience. Find them, meet them. Build that connection, build that relationship. Get them to like you. Then offer them something that’s for them. Yes that they want. And if you’ve found the right people that are your target audience, then they will want what you are offering and then teach others how to do it.
Okay. You’ve cracked business there. I feel you’ve simplified it for us all. I’m gonna chuckle all these books, Anna, don’t need them. Just need to follow that. I need to write a book on that. It’ll be forward long.
Yeah, because you think, what part am I not working on? ’cause lots of people might be working on the building connection by doing social media, but actually thinking I’m connecting with people. But there’s not actually a lot of people listening ’cause you haven’t really grown people and met people. And actually, are you really connecting with them by posting random things on socials?
Oh, it’s a really good filter. And we overcomplicate this so much with listening to all these people on social media telling us what to do or reading all the books with all these different, oh, use this magic formula to do this. And this too is that is the basic principle, and it’s looking at it and thinking, right, how do I want to meet the people?
Where can I meet the people? Who can I go and meet? Who am I looking for? Where are they hanging out? How am I gonna connect with them? Am I gonna add value? Am I gonna share the passion for what I do? Am I going to see if I can put things out there that are gonna interest them, intrigue them, entertain them?
Then it’s just about offering them the thing that they need. What do they need from you right now? Go and offer that to them and do it to everybody. Do it individually. Do it as follow up. And then if you’re in network marketing, one of the things that you’re offering is an opportunity to earn money. You offer them that and then teach them to meet the people, to build the relationships, build connection, to offer them amazing opportunities.
It’s not complicated. Business isn’t complicated, but we make it complicated by either getting in our own way, by procrastinating, by faffing. It’s, we all do it here. Mm. Yeah, you’re right. We get in our own way. Such a lot. My overcomplicating things. Which of those four stages do you find people struggle with most?
Offering the opportunity. Right. Doubt to doubt, because a lot of people are okay meeting people most of the time. They’re willing to do that. There does come a sticking point for a lot of people because some people, you know, they, they’ve never had to meet new people. They’ve never had to build an audience.
Offline, online, wherever. So that becomes a little bit of a sticking point. Building relationships, most people are okay with the majority, but it takes confidence to start building those relationships. And sometimes people are lacking in that. But the main thing that people really do lack confidence with and get overwhelmed by and procrastinate over, is asking for things.
Asking people to buy, asking people to join. But when you start to shift that, and it’s all about serving, solving their problems, offering amazing things for them. And you can get that right somewhere up in your head because it’s all mindset, you know, fear of people saying no, fear of what people will think.
Fear that you’re gonna fail, fear that you’re gonna succeed, whatever it might be. The money mindset behind asking someone to buy too expensive, they’re not gonna be able to afford it, or, you know, all the things. That’s where people come unstuck. And doing that in the right way and doing it in a way that doesn’t feel icky to you.
Or doesn’t feel icky to the person that you’re offering something to. That’s a whole other thing. You know, that is the one big thing that people come to me for is that I can’t get people to buy. I feel awkward getting people to buy. I can’t ask people to join my team, and if we can get that bit unstuck, magic really does happen.
Mm. Do you think people avoid it because of the ick? Yes, very much so. Yeah. I recently had somebody who added me as a friend on Facebook, and I do get, lots of people added me because I’m always meeting different people or people want to learn about productivity. And I’m quite open with my list.
I’m not very personal on my Facebook. Well, I am a bit, but I’m happy to just be friends with people, on my Facebook. So she added me and I just thought she was a connection I’d made. Like she’d heard me speak or you know, been on my podcast or something. And she very, very quickly sent me a direct message about joining her, industry and.
She hadn’t even looked at my profile because if you’d have spent three minutes looking at my profile, you would see Temple Spa in there. You know, you would see my history with Temple Spa. You would see that I’ve sold skincare, so I don’t need to sell your skincare. She just hadn’t done any research.
You know, if she’d have. Slid into those dms and gone. I’ve had, you know, thanks for the connection. I know that you’ve done Temples Spa in the past, he’s still doing it. I’m in a similar industry, you know, I sell this, blah, blah, blah. I was just a bit like you have done. No amount of research here You are just scatter gunning.
And how on earth do you think that’s working? She didn’t really read it, and about a month later I got a very similar direct message from her and I was just like, oh, for goodness sake, I’ve just deleted her. Like, I can’t even deal with you.
No, and it seems like that, and unfortunately this is what’s being taught by, not by everybody, but by some, and I think, cold outreach has its place. It really does in the right way. If you are dropping into somebody’s inbox and you’ve been taught to do, 50 a day or whatever it is, and you don’t want to check on what people do and you haven’t got time and you’re trying to be as productive as possible. At least make the messages generically solving somebody’s problem and be a bit more about them than just be the standard copy paste. I’ve got this opportunity. Would you like to watch a business presentation? Or, I’ve got this opportunity. I come and join my team.
Click here. Tailor your messages, get clever and get more productive with tailoring those messages so they properly solve somebody’s problem so that somebody out of those 50 a day is gonna look at that and go, yeah, that’s me.
And if you’re not bothered about getting blocked by the other 49. Crack on, but perfect that message a hundred percent. Ideally. You want to be going out there and connecting with these people and finding out more about them and finding out how you can help them. And if you’re gonna do it cold, and just add people as followers or friends, find out about them, let them tell you about themselves, you know, really delve into who they are, and then help them with what you’ve got.
Offer them that amazing opportunity. And if you’re not comfortable with that, really get to know them on a personal level and find out how you can help them. Don’t make it all about you. Mm-hmm. Anna, you’re sparking ideas for me. If you were starting out. In a network marketing business. Now, Derek says you just got your kit, it was about to arrive. You had three hours a week to work on it. What would you do? Start with, I would get out there and I would talk to as many people about what I’ve got and what I’m doing and how excited I am and be sharing that passion in a way that feels comfortable with me.
So. Let me take you back to 2005. When I first got my kit, I got really excited about it coming and I started to tell people wherever I was going, so now I would be getting, oh my gosh, there’s three days until it’s coming. I’m so excited. Who wants to be the first to see the kit because it’s, I can’t wait, come round to mine on this day.
It’ll be here. We can open it together. And I’d organized some sort of opening party where people can come and see the kit, come and see what was happening with it. Find out a little bit more, be as nosy as I’m, and sharing that excitement. And then over the next few weeks, I would be looking at the particular model that you’ve got and thinking about how you want to run that business.
So if it’s social media wise, I would be building an audience on whatever platform it is of people in some sort of community space that want to find out about these products, that want to get the. Solutions that these products or services offer, that want to learn about it, that want to be as excited as you, that want to be the first to hear stuff that want to be a part of this journey and get them in one place and be talking to them on a regular basis and sharing that excitement and that passion,
and then I’ve been looking at how I can expand my network of people through either. To the local community and finding out what’s going on events wise, what I can get into and, promote or share or collaborate. I’d be looking at finding my first few people who want to come and do this as well.
You know, come with me, we’ll do it together, type of. Thing, you know, we’ll, we’ll learn together. You get your kit and we’ll, we’ll do it and we’ll, we’ll work together on this. And then those three hours a week going forward would be doing those four things. Always looking for some new people to meet every week in some way, shape or form.
Building those connections every week. Showing up on social media, showing up in my local community in some way, and then making it a regular thing to be offering that opportunity. So that’s to the new people, to the regular connections that I’ve already got How am I doing with meeting new people? How am I doing with nurturing those connections? How am I doing with selling it, selling to them, sharing the opportunities and how am I doing at teaching others? And I think a lot of people in the industry, like from when I was really in the heart of it and I’m now still got lots of friends in there, and it’s an industry that will always share a piece of my heart for sure.
People don’t really know how much time they’ve got. So I think that’s a really good thing to do is have a sit down and look at your diary and be really truly honest with yourself. How many hours a week do I have to put into this business and when am I gonna do those hours? And actually putting them in your diary like it’s a meeting.
When you come to do those meetings, have these four filters that you’re thinking about. How am I meeting new people this week? How am I nurturing the people that I’ve already got in my world? How am I sharing things with people and how am I doing with growing people around me, teaching other people how to do this?
And if you do that, you will be so much more productive in. So much less time rather than this ad hoc, pick up a phone, share a post, do a Canva thing, get a bit stressed about something. Panic share some offers, do another thing, get a bit in a flap, hide for a week or two, then come back up and then think, oh, I’m gonna make this my thing forever, and then spend 10 hours crafting the most amazing reels and then disappear again for a month because it’s got too much.
Because I know burnout. It can be so common in this industry. So how, how do you help people recognize the signs early and course correct before they hit the wall? That’s very individual for everybody. You can tell when people are starting to get burnout and, and you should be able to tell yourselves when you’re starting to say, I haven’t got time.
I can’t do this. That’s never gonna work for me. You’re starting to feel like everything’s getting on top of you and you are starting to do that hiding, or you are, you’re doing that going all in, and then not waking up the next day until whatever time or really struggling your other job. I think you, you learn to spot the signs too late sometimes, but if you are, if you know that you’re going to come, you come up against some things which are kind of normal for burnout, you know, feeling poorly all the time.
Hitting rock bottom, mood swings, snapping at people not being able to cope with the everyday stuff. I think it’s really important to start noticing those earlier. If you can, then you, you can pull yourself back out but for me, a lot of the things I teach when it comes to people, you know, not coping not hitting their goals or trying to go all in or feeling really desperate about the things because they are so focused on getting this thing and it’s burning them out. We talk about acceptance and choices, but accepting that you can’t do it all. Accepting what you can and can’t do and can and can’t control, understanding that it’s okay to rest and it’s not being unproductive lazy to take time out of your business because actually you’ve got to think about this business and your life as a partnership. You know this, it should be balanced because that’s what you’re doing this for. You’re doing a side hustle to make your life better, to give you freedom.
If you’re not getting freedom along the way, there’s something wrong. So I think looking at that bigger picture of taking time out and having days off and treats and like spending maybe half an hour of your business time doing something for you and your health and your wellness, and just having somebody that’s not connected to you and your business, like a coach like me or you to sit down with.
You and say, right, let’s look at your business from the outside. Let’s actually sit down and look at what’s going on here. What can you change? What can’t you change? What do you want it to look like? How are we gonna start putting that into practice with, you know, and removing this pressure that you are putting on yourself so that you can become more productive, more profitable, more hours in the day.
And really look at it separately from somebody that would look at it in your company who has ulterior motive for your success. As lovely as they might be you, they’re gonna earn off you, you, you want somebody separate to look at this. What’s the word? Or objectionably? That’s not a word, but it is now.
Object. I mean, objectively. Objectively, that’s the word. So having somebody being able to do that can really help you see things from a different angle and see what’s not quite right. Externalize are really, really important on things like this, and they might not tell you what to do.
If you saw Anna, she knows her stuff. She’s a mentor in this sphere as well as coaching people through it. So she would be able to give you some hints and tips. But even someone who’s not in the industry, who’s just a good coach, could really help you figure out what’s important to you and why you are burning out or why you’re struggling with the pressure and what you want to achieve from this, and what the important things are.
So I think that’s a really good tip is get those. External eyes, that external support, because we have wonderful uplines, if you want to use that word. My manager in Temple Spa was incredible, really supportive. I absolutely loved spending time with her proper business head as well. Like she was all business,
you know, there would’ve always been that motive. Just like when I’m coaching my team, I had a team of 40, I think, in the end, and. Yes, I wanted the best for them, honestly, truly. But if the best for them was also doing more sales, win-win for me. But it’s hard to be objective because what they did influenced my income.
Yeah. Absolutely. And as somebody who was a leader in the industry as well, I remember that too. I remember thinking, you know what? I can see the potential in this person. I can see how amazing all this will be for them. I can see them as the next leader in my team because I can just see that star quality in them.
But if you want it more for them than they want it. What does that say? I mean, it’s so easy to get so overexcited for this person when that might not be their dream. And me pushing them to do that thing, that I want them to do and I can see them doing it, is gonna burn them out. It’s gonna make it worse because that’s what I think is best for them, not necessarily what is best for them.
And it’s a complete waste of time. Oh, yes. Been there, done it. Yeah. When you’re looking at your team, for those people listening who’ve maybe got a team in this industry, whether it’s a team of six or 60, there’ll be people in your team that you really see that potential in, and you want them to be everything that you can imagine and dream for them because you want that for them.
But if they don’t want it, you are utterly wasting your time. And when you’ve got a team, you focus on the people that want the time from you. I remember there was people in my team who did amazing sales, but they didn’t want any time from me. I would offer one-to-ones. I would offer support, I would offer whatever they needed.
And they’re like, no, just send me the deals. I don’t, literally don’t want anything else. And then there was people who wanted a bit more support, who needed a bit more support. So. That’s where I put it. But then there was those people who were constantly asking for help and support and need from me, took a lot of my time, but never actually did what they agreed to do in our sessions together.
And that’s another red flag of are you wasting your time? Never not be available for people. ’cause if they’re in your team, you have that duty and they can always. Turn it around. But if someone is continually saying they’re gonna do something and they’re never actually following through, then just be really wise about where you put your time, because your time’s precious, really precious.
Yeah. One of the things that I was always taught was work with the willing and spend more time with the people who want this and who are driven and focused than you do with the people who you think need it the most. Which at the beginning, when you’re first starting your journey in network marketing and building a team, you think the people who aren’t doing anything are the ones that need the most of your time.
But they’re not, they’re not doing anything for a reason, and until they’re ready to do the things, you can’t help them. And we’re doing a masterclass on inspiring leadership and helping others in your team get their own teams. And one of the things that was asked on there by about four or five different people was literally that thing, how do I spend my time wisely in this team?
Because I’ve got all these people who are telling me they want it. But they’re not doing anything. They’re just not doing anything. And I’m spending all this time with them and I’m dropping all these plates of my own up here that are all about meeting the people and building the connections, you know, all the four things because of these people.
And it’s quite a simple thing to solve, but it’s hard for my mindset point of view. ’cause you want to help these people, but they’re not ready to be helped. The best thing you can do is have the final chat with them, the last one you are gonna do, and get them to set what they are going to do before you have your next chat.
So talk to them about, what is it they want from this? What are they gonna commit to achieving? And once they’ve achieved that, they get back in touch. They know where to find the help and support. They’ve got it all through the company. They’ve got it all through the stuff that you’ve already given them.
Give them that thing. And then when they keep coming back to you, you say, have you done the thing? No. Right. You go and do the thing and then we’ll do the next thing with you. ‘Cause you cannot keep spending time with those people that are just sucking your energy. It’s just not productive.
That’s a classic example of defining and then defending your boundaries. Yeah, and that’s what we need to do in all business, all aspects of life. You go, this is my boundary. So with this person, the boundary is I’m not giving you another hours one-to-one until you do that one thing that you said you’re gonna do.
Yeah. So you define it and then you defend it. ’cause people wanna encroach on your boundaries. All the time. So you defend it. The other thing about these people is you’re not helping them in any way, shape or form by giving them your attention. They want your attention. That’s what they’re doing this for.
They might not necessarily understand in their own head that that’s what they’re doing, but that’s what they’re doing. So if you are giving them that attention, you are giving them what they want and you are training them. If you move away and you distance yourself from it, you’re helping them and they’re gonna go out and either decide it’s not for them, or take action and get off their bottoms and do something, but what happen until you stop feeding them?
Gotta cut the cord and help them grow up a little bit on their own with your support. Yeah, that’s great advice. So we are coming to an end, Anna, but if you could give one productivity tip to every single network marketer listening today, what would it be? Let’s say have a list of jobs, little jobs, little tasks that you know you can do in 10 minutes based around those four things.
Meeting the people, building the connections, offering the opportunities, and teaching others to do the same A list so that when you have a pocket of time, when you don’t know what to do, when you’re not sure what to do next, you can just pick from the list and there can be 10 minute tasks. A lot of them, they can be things that you’ve, you know, you need to do to move your business forward.
Things that are maybe a bit more chunky that you can pick up when you know you’ve got the time, but it’ll be more productive to have that list to pick from when you go, right, I’ve got 10 minutes free. I’ve got half an hour free. What am I gonna do?
Before you’ve decided what you’re gonna do, have a list of all the things. Pick something from it, get it done. Fantastic. You’ve been a future friend there with that list, so that when you come to your precious time on your business, you know exactly what to do and you can hit the ground running. Anna, it’s been an absolute pleasure having you on the podcast. Where can my lovely listeners find out more about you and your work? You can find me on pretty much any social media platform under either Anna Green. Direct selling success and of course my podcast, direct selling success Network Marketing.
Done right. Fantastic. I will put all the links in the show notes and Anna’s got a great free Facebook group as well, which has so much in It’s unbelievable. So definitely join that. If you’re in that industry, you will not regret it. Lovely. Thank you so much for coming on, Anna. Thank you for having me.
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